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Keith Hartman Hollywood’s Hottest interview

Hollywoodā€™s HottestĀ is nearing its end but weā€™ve still got another two days to go after today. This week you lot have been lapping upĀ Hollywoodā€™s HottestĀ and we know youā€™ll love todayā€™s too.

Writer and director Keith Hartman is under the spotlight in todayā€™s instalment ofĀ Hollywoodā€™s Hottest. Best-known for his debut feature filmĀ You Should Meet My Son, Keith is currently working on his new movieĀ Real Heroes.

We caught up with Keith to talk aboutĀ Real Heroes, find out what he learned from his previous movie and talk about his plans.

How are you today Keith? Where does this Q&A find you?

No surprise, Iā€™m at Starbucks on my laptop.Ā  You can find me here most days.Ā  Weā€™ve got a great little shop here in West Hollywood where everybody knows each other. And the guy behind the counter was in the film I shot this summer.

Youā€™re currently in post-production for your new movie ā€˜Real Heroesā€™. Tell us about the movie.

Itā€™s a comedy about B-string superheroes who go on a reality television show to promote themselves.Ā  Sort of a screwball action comedy.

Where did the inspiration for the movie come from?

Honestly, it started because a friend of mine shot a really bad indie superhero film. Just unwatchable crap. But it got me thinking about all the fun stuff that you could do with a small budget superhero film. Weird, quirky stuff about their personal lives that youā€™d never be able to do in a studio film.

And of course, I always like to root for the underdog.Ā  I love Spider-man and Wonder Woman, but Iā€™m much more interested in the unknown heroes who are trying to break into the business, who are hoping to crack their first big case.Ā  Like Sable, the single mom superhero in the film.Ā  Sheā€™s trying to hold down a waitressing job, and raise her moody teenage daughter, and fight off a zombie Nazi whoā€™s carrying around Hitlerā€™s brain in a pickle jar.Ā  And sheā€™s starting to realize that she canā€™t be good at all three of those things.

Keith Hartman

Tell us about the casting process for the movie. How easy was it to find the right people for the roles youā€™ve written?

Thatā€™s the great thing about LA – the pool of talent is really deep.Ā  Even on a small indie film like this, you have your pick from an amazing array of actors.

We spent a lot of time having the actors read with each other, because the chemistry is so important in a character-driven comedy like this.Ā  For example, we had to find just the right pair of actors to play Sable and her rebellious daughter.

We hear youā€™ve jusy launched a Kickstarter campaign to help fund the final stages of the film. What made you decide to do that?

Yeah, Iā€™m kind of nervous about the Kickstarter campaign.Ā  If it works, it could completely revolutionize the way Iā€™m making movies.

I was kicking around Hollywood for about 10 years before I managed to raise the financing for my first filmĀ You Should Meet My Son.Ā  And it took me a couple years after that to raise the money forĀ Real Heroes.Ā  And even so, I was only able to raise enough for principal photography on that film, which is why Iā€™m trying to Kickstarter the funds for Post-Production now.

So if the Kickstarter Campaign works, it lets me finishĀ Real HeroesĀ the way it should be finished.Ā  But it will also give me a new way to move forward with other projects.Ā  If the fan base is able to support my films on Kickstarter, then I could be making a film a year, rather than a film every two to five years.

How difficult is it to get a movie made when youā€™re working in the independent arena? What are the biggest challenges?

Financing is by far the biggest challenge.Ā  I hate to say that it all comes down to money, but if you canā€™t raise the financing you canā€™t shoot the film.

The other big challenge is building a team.Ā  Filmmaking isnā€™t really about one guy with a vision, itā€™s about a bunch of creative people who work well together.Ā  And while there are a lot of wonderful talented people in LA, there are also a lot of lunatics.

Luckily, Iā€™ve finally got a team that Iā€™m really happy with.Ā  My editor, Donna Mathewson, has this deep analytical understanding of comedy thatā€™s just amazing.Ā  Iā€™ve also found a really good composer, a great sound engineer, a great line producer… a bunch of freakishly talented people who work well together.

The dirty little secret of directing is that 90% of your job is to hire people who are smarter than you are, and then to try and keep up with them.

Real Heroes

What lessons did you learn from your first feature ā€˜You Should Meet My Sonā€™?

I got really lucky with that film.Ā  I cast the two leads separately, because they were both frigginā€™ brilliant. But I had no idea what would happen once we put them together.Ā  As soon as they started rehearsing with each other something magical happened. Some of the reviewers have compared their comedic chemistry to Lucy and Ethel.Ā  They just built this amazing relationship.Ā Ā  Whole layers that Iā€™d never even thought of.Ā  I wish I could take credit for it, but it was dumb luck.

So the biggest thing I learned from the first movie was to cast for chemistry.Ā  It means that callbacks take a lot longer, because youā€™re having the actors read together in different combinations.Ā  But itā€™s worth it when you find that magic chemistry that brings a relationship to life.

Of course, as it turns out, one of the best combinations inĀ Real HeroesĀ still happened by accident.Ā  We had an actor leave the project two days before the shoot because he got a role in a bigger film.Ā  And so we had to bring in a new actor very quickly, and there was no time to have him read with the guy who would be playing his boyfriend. And we got real lucky again.Ā  Both the actors were very good, but something amazing happened when we put them together.Ā  They wound up being one of the funniest, most engaging couples Iā€™ve ever seen on screen.

Hereā€™s the first in a series of fake interviews that we shot with them, so you can see what I mean:

Youā€™ve been working on the script for your next movie ā€˜Vampire Strippers Must Dieā€™. What can you tell us about that project?

Itā€™s an action-comedy about B-string American Male Strippers who are on tour in Europe.Ā  And half the guys in the group are straight, and half are gay, and theyā€™ve been on tour for six weeks.Ā  And theyā€™re all about ready to kill each other.

And then they get to this small Romanian town where theyā€™re attacked by vampires, and they have to band together to save each other.

I actually finished the script a few years ago, and itā€™s won a few awards.Ā  But unfortunately, it will cost at least a million dollars to shoot, so I donā€™t know when Iā€™ll be able to make it.

My next movie is a different project, calledĀ Confessions Of A Former Teen Superhero.Ā  Itā€™s sort of a superhero coming-of-age romantic comedy featuring Rick & Josh, the two characters that we all fell in love with while shootingReal Heroes.

Weā€™re a fan of your writing, as well as your movies, what do you have coming up next? Will Drew Parker be making a return any time soon?

Iā€™d love to do another Drew Parker novel, but those books are really densely plotted and they take me a couple of years to write.Ā  Iā€™m honestly not sure when Iā€™ll have a chance to get back to them.

Most likely, the next book that youā€™ll see from me will be a graphic novel version ofĀ Vampire Strippers Must Die!Ā  Iā€™m working with an artist on the first issue. Itā€™s gonna be fun, with the option to either read it like a conventional comic, or listen as actors read all the roles.Ā  Weā€™ll put the first issue up on the web for free, and then see if the fanbase can support a Kickstarter campaign to finish the other 11 issues in the story.Ā  Comic book art is expensive.Ā  Not as expensive as movie-making, but still expensive.

I donā€™t mean to sound like a walking ad for Kickstarter, but it really could be a game changer for all of us creative types.Ā  If it works, it means that a lot of these weird little quirky projects like mine will find their way into the world.

What other projects do you have coming up in the remainder of 2012?

2012 is almost done!Ā  So, the next few months are tied up with post production work onĀ Real HeroesĀ and (hopefully) shooting a couple of additional scenes that we just didnā€™t have the money to shoot this summer.

2013 is kind of at the mercy of Kickstarter.Ā  If it works, weā€™ll be shootingĀ Confessions Of A Former Teen SuperheroĀ in the summer and putting out the graphic novel forĀ Vampire Strippers Must Die!Ā  If it doesnā€™t, Iā€™ll probably spend most of 2013 trying to figure out how to finishĀ Real HeroesĀ on the cheap.

Find out more about Keith at his websiteĀ www.keith-hartman.comĀ and his new movie ā€˜Real Heroesā€™ over atwww.realsuperheroesla.com.

Watch the Kickstarter video for ā€˜Real Heroesā€™ below and head over toĀ KickstarterĀ to get involved.Ā 

Pip Ellwood-Hughes
Pip Ellwood-Hughes
Pip is the owner and Editor of Entertainment Focus, and the Managing Director of PiƱata Media. With over 19 years of journalism experience, Pip has interviewed some of the biggest stars in the entertainment world. He is also a qualified digital marketing expert with over 20 years of experience.

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